Wisconsin Technical College System Board
310 Price Place, PO Box 7874
Madison, WI 53707
Dr. Richard Carpenter, President

State Certification Committee Meeting
July 17 and 18, 2002
Wisconsin Technical College System Board
Madison, Wisconsin

MINUTES

Present:

Janice Jablonski, Milwaukee Area Technical College
Kitty Willkomm Waukesha County Technical College
Nicholas Triscari, Milwaukee Area Technical College (July 17th)
Mary Peters, Chippewa Valley Technical College
Terry Simmons, Gateway Technical College
Sharon Spangberg, WTCSB
Tom Grinde, WTCSB
Val Smith, Wisconsin Indianhead Technical College
Mary Halberstadt, Gateway Technical College
Stephen Holden, Chippewa Valley Technical College
Larry Kind, Northcentral Technical College
Jill Gmeinder, Madison Area Technical College

Members Absent:
Nicholas Triscari, Milwaukee Area Technical College (July 18th)    

Guests: Ed Kaufenberg (July 18th)

Welcome/Introductions

Sharon Spangberg called the meeting to order at 1:11PM.  Members of the Committee introduced themselves.  Dr. Richard Carpenter welcomed the group.  He spoke about his observations of the Technical College System as a newcomer, and where he sees the system has work to do.  He believes our system is in a unique position to rebuild the state’s economy.  Individual districts have many things in common and need to realize that sticking together is to our benefit.  People outside of Wisconsin recognize our system as the premier training provider for business and industry.  We need to bridge gaps between our districts for legislative purposes and continue our efforts with economic development.  We need to be at the table with the UW in future Economic Summits.  We can’t compete with the UW strategies, so we must develop our own strategies.  We need to influence taxpayer’s opinions as their future success depends on our success.  He also commented on the pace of change.  He feels this new pace is like nothing we have seen before, and that this will require the culture of our institutions to change.  Some of our old strategies of slowly building support and consensus will no longer work.  We will either help direct this transformation or it will impose itself on us as a system.

In terms of the specifics of certification, Dr. Carpenter stated he is not interested in pursuing an administrative rule change at this time.  He prefers to preserve the integrity of the Code, but to also seek common ground for flexibility and to be responsive to issues such as the health care worker shortage.  He would like certification to be seen as helping the situation, not hindering it.  He applauds the work of the Committee to date on their efforts to promote continued professional development.  He also feels there is a lag in the general perception of prior certification efforts at being flexible, and we may need to work harder to communicate what we have improved with system stakeholders. 

Election of Chair and Approval of Minutes

Mary Peters was nominated at the last meeting to serve as Chairperson for the upcoming year.  A motion was made by Jan Jablonski and seconded by Nick Triscari to elect Mary Peters as Chair.  Motion passed. The minutes from the May 2nd – 3rd , 2002, meeting were reviewed.  It was noted that the dates of the fall meeting and workshop had been changed to October 2nd and 3rd, and the minutes should reflect that.  A motion was made by Jan Jablonski and seconded by Val Smith to approve the minutes of May 2nd – 3rd with the mentioned date change.  Motion carried

Annual Report to State Director/President

The annual report for 2001-2002 was reviewed for submission to the State Director/President.  A motion was made by Terry Simmons, and seconded by Larry Kind, to approve the report as written.  Motion passed.

Roles and Responsibilities of the Committee

Sharon reviewed the document that outlines the roles and responsibilities of the Committee and the section of the Code that describes the Committee functions.  Besides the routine functions of the group, Sharon asked the Committee to think about other projects they might wish to consider during the upcoming year, in light of Dr. Carpenter’s comments.  This can be discussed tomorrow.  One project she would like to see undertaken is the review and update of the document “Certification Information for Managers."   The Committee could oversee work that would be done by a subcommittee.  Next Sharon showed the Committee the Certification Website so that new members could familiarize themselves with the content and location of the site.  Jan suggested that the subtitle “Certification Staff” be changed to “Information for Certification Staff."  It is confusing as it is now.  Most people think it will show names of the local staff.  It was also suggested that Guideline 49 should contain links to each appropriate instructional area occupational experience documents.   These changes will be brought back to the Webmaster.

Occupational Experience Documents

Sharon presented a re-draft of the 809 Social Science document as proposed by the General Education Deans, which includes requiring 20 credits in the social science discipline being taught.  Committee members were divided on the issue of raising the bar vs. keeping flexibility in the hiring process.  Jan mentioned that we already have this within the history area.  She also noted that there are differences from one General Ed document to the next, and we should probably look at all the academic areas together in order to be consistent.  Nick is in favor of raising it to 20 credits.  Discussion was held related to issues in hiring, NCA and letting the districts be responsible for any add-on levels.  Kitty wondered if there would be a 20-credit program in International Studies.  The Instructional Services Administrators were also reviewing this proposed change, so we would like to hear their feelings on it.  Jan Jablonski made a motion, seconded by Jill Gmeinder, to table the item until the next meeting.  Motion carried.

Other documents reviewed were:  10-623-7 Applied Engineering Technology (AET).  The list under duties is too extensive and those that are essential or important need to be identified in some fashion.  50-307-1 Child Care Development Specialist and 50-451-2 Telecommunications VDV Installer Technician appear to be missing the statement related to required completion of a registered apprenticeship or documented industry support.  Sharon will have these items clarified and bring them back to the next meeting.  A motion was made by Nick Triscari, seconded by Mary Halberstadt, to accept the 10-164-1 Automation Systems Technology and the 10-196-4 Human Resources documents as presented.  Motion carried.

Guideline Review

The Guidelines ready for third review were reviewed for minor wording changes. 

Meeting Adjourned

It was decided to convene on the 18th at 8:30 AM.  Val made a motion, seconded by Kitty, to adjourn the meeting.  Meeting adjourned at 4:00PM.

July 18, 2002

Chair Mary Peters called the meeting to order at 8:30 AM.  Review and discussion continued on the Guidelines ready for second review.

Appeal

Ed Kaufenberg addressed the group in support of his appeal regarding an individual request for 450 Office Machine Repair (Computer Servicing).  In question is his lack of documented appropriate occupational experience.  The Committee agreed that Mr. Kaufenberg was lacking in appropriate occupational experience as documented, but if he could produce additional documented occupational experience, he was encouraged to submit that to the State Consultant. Mary Peters will draft a letter to Mr. Kaufenberg with that information.

Requirement #58 On-line Course

Ms. Peg Gross from Northcentral Technical College gave a presentation on the above.  She presented materials on the course.  Committee members would like to see the word “Supervision” remain in the title.  “Supervision and Leadership in a Technical College” was suggested.  Also, Steve and others feel learning plan 4 should contain more on evaluating faculty in the learning environment rather than on program development which is covered in #51 Philosophy of VTAE.  Members support a pilot version of the course to be rolled out this fall, with a final version of the course brought back to the Committee for approval after completion of the pilot.  Thanks to Peg for her work in facilitating this project.

ESL-Foreign Language

This item was postponed until the next meeting.

Workgroup to Review Ed. Requirements #50, #52 and #54

Sharon reported that Judy Neill would be hired to facilitate this process, which will occur this fall.

Guidelines Review

The group reviewed the drafts of six newly proposed Guidelines.  Kathy Cullen is presenting them to Instructional Services Administrators at their meeting today.  The Guideline proposing a minimum of C- grades for courses counted toward Requirements #57, #59 or #60 could draw a diverse opinion.  Steve asked if State Board staff could seek a legal opinion on whether or not setting a grade minimum is within the scope and intent of the TCS 3.  Sharon will follow up.  It was decided to postpone acting on these Guidelines until the next meeting.  Also, final action will need to be taken on the other Guidelines that have been revised. 

Fall Workshop Planning and Scheduling of Meetings for Next Year

This was postponed until the next meeting on September 5, 2002.

Terry Simmons made a motion, seconded by Kitty Willkomm, to adjourn the meeting.  The meeting was adjourned at 11:30AM.